“And so while we were working with these these clients, we started to build stuff that we could reuse across clients. And that ultimately led us to what would later in 2014 spin off into our first venture backed company, Robin. Robin came out of an idea that we had a conference room table in our, ah ah conference well in our conference room, which um we made it so that when you sat down at it, it booked the room using using like motion sensors and other stuff. And this was like ah just a fun thing that we had built using some of the tech that we were developing.”