“you're either all in or you're not. So I couldn't be all in. So I stepped away. I was taking care of very small children at that time and and raising my children and my family. So I took a little bit of time off from being an entrepreneur and that was very much the right decision. That was also co-founded with my husband at the time. So he went off and ran it and found a ah founding team and it turned out to be a successful operation, although the acquisition wasn't until about 15 years after founding, so which is not unusual, you know as we know.”