“Yeah, so it was also a little bit of coincidence. It wasn't fully planned at that point. I was still thinking about kind of the partner track in a consulting environment, but a former colleague of mine left KPMG to join a company called OX money. It was still quite early stage. And when we had a conversation, when he was leaving the consultancy, it just sounded very interesting. I said, okay, cool. Whenever you start hiring, building but a bigger team, give me a call.”