“uh, accompanying that hardware. And that, that was, that was tough. Like that created a lot of friction for us. Um, we were software people, software minded. So learning how to actually run, run a hardware business and how to focus on optimizing margins, um, across really two different products was, was a definite challenge. But I think like the biggest challenge was just making that hardware real. Um, as, as a group of software people, that was kind of an insane journey and in and of itself.”