Robert Grazioli on ah make those decisions. And that's where we kind of, we've… “ah make those decisions. And that's where we kind of, we've raised off of that momentum for our latest round where, uh, we hit that .1 billion dollars valuation. Um, and that's kind of carried us to today.” Read the full interview with Robert Grazioli More from this interview“uh, accompanying that hardware. And that, that was, that was tough. Like that created a lot of friction for us. Um, we were software people, software minded. So learning how to actually run, run a ha…”“um Hardware is challenging to build and test, and you really have to make sure the product works before you're in market. And that's also kind of the antithesis too to to a lot of software developmen…”“Yeah. So I think for me, it was deeply personal. I mean, eight years was a long time. And also I was working with my very close friends and founders. So stepping away was a very difficult decision fo…”